This is part one of a two part series
Please read the following, and offer your advice to our reader Nancy, who sent this in, the names have been changed to protect the innocent, FYI.
This is a long posting, but it's worth it. If you want to jump to the good stuff, just use the quicklinks.
One final warning: because of the subject nature, this editor was unable to remain properly objective in the writing of the quicklinks and some commentary. The editor apologizes for this, however the rest of the content is untainted, any changes done were merely to preserve anonymity or the parties involved or avoid breaking any TOS due to foul language.
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- Civilized, getting to know you chit-chat
- A little lack of knowledge
- A little shop talk
- Something in common - we both like food
- What do you look for in a man?
- I know, let's talk about politics!
- Full of self love
- Things are getting interesting
- I know what would help, lets talk about Iraq - everybody knows the real story by now.
- Will Canada save us?
- Maybe it's love, we both agree, Bill O'Reilly sucks!
- Canadian censorship, or a Fox News Zombie?
Civilized, getting to know you chit-chat - (back to QuickLinks)
Kalvin says: hey you!
Kalvin says: studying?
Nancy says: Hi!
Nancy says: well, taking a 1/2 hour South Park break
Kalvin says: i'm glad you came online
Kalvin says: ooooh i love southpark
Kalvin says: was gonna be a lonely night without someone to talk to
Kalvin says: my friend left
Nancy says: did you have fun last night
Kalvin says: he wanted to go see this girl he knows here
Nancy says: where is he visiting from?
Kalvin says: yeah was good to see an old friend and have a beer or two
Kalvin says: Virginia
Kalvin says: Norfolk
Kalvin says: old friend from school in orlando
Nancy says: just there for the weekend sort of thing?
Kalvin says: yah
Kalvin says: most of the people i know here are married with kids
Kalvin says: so i don't much hang out time aside from the office
Nancy says: when you lived here, did you ever go to Long Beach?
Nancy says: Tofino
Kalvin says: no. where is long beach? i know Kits Beach and
Kalvin says: Tofino?
Nancy says: OMG.... on the west coasts of Vancouver Island
Kalvin says: isn't that on Vancouver island?
Nancy says: yeah
Nancy says: soooooooo beautiful
Kalvin says: oh yeah
Kalvin says: i think i did go to tofino once
Nancy says: one of my favourite places on the planet
Nancy says: the beach is 40km long
Nancy says: powdery white sand
Kalvin says: i don't remember it aside from staying at a lodge and having the best rack of lamb
Kalvin says: really?
Nancy says: hahahha....
Canada is all Horribly cold, right? - (back up to QuickLinks)
Note: Victoria is often categorized as having a Mediterranean climate
Kalvin says: i like Victoria alot
Nancy says: yeah... people go surfing there all the time.
Kalvin says: that's a really quaint town
Kalvin says: SURFING?
Nancy says: yeah
Kalvin says: in canada?
Kalvin says: omg
Kalvin says: lol
Kalvin says: must be horribly cold
Nancy says: not much colder than san fran
Nancy says: and people surf there
Kalvin says: what made you think of Tofino?
Nancy says: just that I was really hoping to go there this weekend... but I had to decline an invitation... 'cause there's just no way I'd get anything done there....:(
Nancy says: :(
Kalvin says: awwww
Kalvin says: you should have gone anyway
Kalvin says: i would
Kalvin says: when is your deadline for the next exam?
Nancy says: they have gorgeous natural hot springs... right by the ocean
Nancy says: 4 sept
A little shop talk - (back up to QuickLinks)
Kalvin says: that BC real estate exam must be really hard
Kalvin says: or rather the UBC exam
Nancy says: hardest in the country....
Nancy says: with a high failure rate
Kalvin says: cause our exam was easy
Kalvin says: the Rockwell Institute's exam was hard
Nancy says: really? I hear California's is hard
Kalvin says: but the WA state exam was a breeze
Kalvin says: and i'm pretty good with math and formulas so that part was easy
Nancy says: A friend of mine here, who has dual citizenship, is moving to SF... she's a realtor here, and she said the Cali exam was about as hard as the BC one
Kalvin says: hmmmm
Kalvin says: give me a minute. have to go check on my dinner cooking.
Nancy says: and she has a degree in Accounting
Nancy says: k
Something in common - we both like food - (back up to QuickLinks)
Kalvin says: back
Kalvin says: almost burned my steak
Kalvin says: do you cook at home?
Nancy says: yeah... though I don't get very creative when cooking just for one
Kalvin says: neither do i
Kalvin says: just easy stuff mostly
Kalvin says: when i was in Vancouver i took cooking classes though
Nancy says: me too....lots of salads in summer.. it's super humid here today
Nancy says: really? what style?
Kalvin says: Indian cooking
Nancy says: my favourtie
Kalvin says: and i also took a sushi class from Tojo
Nancy says: I think I'm sushi'd out
Nancy says: but I can never get enough Indian food!
Nancy says: it's so aromatic
Kalvin says: yes
Kalvin says: very hard to make it though
Kalvin says: takes so much time
Nancy says: I know! and mixing the spices is an art
Kalvin says: so many spices and cutting veggies and preparation
Kalvin says: takes hours and hours
Nancy says: yeah... I'd rather pay someone to do it! lol
Kalvin says: i used to cook for my girlfriend most nights
Nancy says: yeah... my ex-boyfriend did most of the cooking for me too
Nancy says: nice treat!
What do you look for in a man? - (back up to QuickLinks)
Kalvin says: how long ago was your last boyfriend?
Nancy says: my last serious bf and I broke up about a year ago now
Kalvin says: and dated around since then?
Nancy says: I've dated a bit since then, but nothing serious
Kalvin says: what are you looking for in a man?
Nancy says: a great cook
Nancy says: !
Nancy says: LOL
Nancy says: j/k
Kalvin says: i'm a decent cook
Kalvin says: i can cook with a recipe pretty well
Nancy says: I guess someone who can challenge me, and also be a bit of a safe haven when the world is overly challenging
Kalvin says: but my steaks don't seem to turn out all that well
Nancy says: charcoal bbq is what steaks need!
Nancy says: not gas bbq... charcoal
Kalvin says: i don't know but i seem not to be good at it
Nancy says: the cancer causing kind
Kalvin says: you ever thought about whether or not you'd like to be married?
Nancy says: it's not a necessity for me... though I'm not averse to it
Nancy says: intelligence though is supremely important...
Kalvin says: so you live alone? and you own your own place
Nancy says: yep
Kalvin says: i'm quite intelligent
Kalvin says: lol
Nancy says: that's good!...
Nancy says: :)
I know, let's talk about politics! - (back up to QuickLinks)
Nancy says: I need someone who is interested in global issues
Kalvin says: mhmmm
Kalvin says: i am
Kalvin says: but i'm not a liberal
Kalvin says: i'm a conservative
Kalvin says: in fact, your conservative party isn't quite conservative enough for me.
Nancy says: hmmm... I'm definitely a liberal
Nancy says: yikes
Kalvin says: my ex votes Liberal
Nancy says: the liberal party here isn't nearly liberal enough for me
Nancy says: I'm more of a green party voter
Kalvin says: dang
Kalvin says: don't tell me your a Greenie!
Kalvin says: NOOOOOOOO
Nancy says: works for me
Full of self love - (back up to QuickLinks)
Kalvin says: well i could talk global issues around you if you want. and politics.
Kalvin says: there are few who can match my political savvy
Nancy says: I'm not looking for my clone, just someone who is open minded, and doesn't see the world in terms of black and white... 'cause for me, everything is a shade of grey
Kalvin says: hmmmm
Things are getting interesting - (back up to QuickLinks)
Nancy says: I think the whole black/white thing is too simplistic
Nancy says: nothing is that simple
Kalvin says: how about " the world is governed by the use of force"?
Nancy says: in general, yes, I agree with that statement
Kalvin says: ok then
Kalvin says: that's pretty black and white
Nancy says: there's enough evidence..
Nancy says: doesn't make it right though
Nancy says: I said "in general"
Kalvin says: well, when a nation or military entity intends harm against another people, they best thing to do is prepare for it.
Kalvin says: as in, right now.... Russia conquering Georgia
Kalvin says: and make no mistake, nobody is going to stop them.
Kalvin says: they want the oil lanes
I know what would help, lets talk about Iraq - everybody knows the real story by now. - (back up to QuickLinks)
Nancy says: and the US's reason for going into Iraq?
Nancy says: Rice's comments on CNN or wherever are so incredibly hypocrital, it's laughable
Nancy says: about this not being 1968 and nations not being allowed to go into a country, occupy its capital and overthrow its government...
Nancy says: LOL
Nancy says: who isn't laughing at that....
Nancy says: I guess you don't like jon stewart too much ....
Kalvin says: because Saddam Hussein defied every UN resolution and prolonged a war which was never stopped. and Saddam HAD acquired yellow cake uranium from Niger. 550 metric tonnes. by occupying Iraq and being close to the center of Islamic domination, it made every straetgic sense to stop a genocidal killer of millions of his own people and stop another point from which weapons of mass destruction could be handed off to terrorists
Nancy says: you don't seriously believe that do you? who supplied him with the weapons needed to launch the chemical attacks that killed all those Kurds....??
Kalvin says: lots of nations did. and continued to. but who was to stop him?
Kalvin says: in other words, had the US provided him with the weapons, should the US have done nothing to stop the continued genocide?
Nancy says: who appointed the US as world cop? and what about Mugabe in Zimbabwe... or the head of Sudan... they are genocidal maniacs...
Nancy says: why no involvement there?
Kalvin says: in other words, mass killings are ok as long as someone else was responsible for their provision
Kalvin says: why not appoint the UN as world cops? have they ever stopped anything?
Nancy says: the kurdish slaughter was over a decade ago
Nancy says: why not stop Saddam when he actually killed those people
Kalvin says: so we should have done nothing and allowed Saddam Hussein to continue his slaghter.
Kalvin says: he was an innocent misunderstood man.
Nancy says: wow
Kalvin says: do you agree with that?
Nancy says: no, we should allow the US to slaughter more iraqis than saddam EVER did
Nancy says: that's much better
Kalvin says: ok so now that the US has restored order and is rebuilding that country that's a bad thing?
Nancy says: ORDER! are you serious?!
Will Canada save us? - (back up to QuickLinks)
Kalvin says: so whatever the US does is bad. we should step aside and wait for the Caliphate.
Kalvin says: you don't pay attention to the news m uch do you?
Nancy says: you must have your tv turned onto fox news 24/7
Nancy says: wow... thanks for the insult
Kalvin says: i pay attention to many news sources
Kalvin says: you asked my opinion
Nancy says: when exactly?
Kalvin says: how many books have you read about world history and politics?
Kalvin says: so in other words, the US should never step in to any armed conflict in your opinion.
Kalvin says: and Canada will save us.
Nancy says: maybe they should have gone after bin laden who was the real mastermind, and not try to hard to fabricate 'evidence' against someone who had no involvement
Nancy says: now you insult my country
Kalvin says: in Pakhistan?
Nancy says: afghanistan
Kalvin says: so if we had invaded Pakhistan that would have been better?
Kalvin says: we went into Afghanistan
Kalvin says: Bin Laden fled to Pakhistan
Nancy says: well, let's face it... they don't know where he is, otheriwse maybe they'd have him
Nancy says: anyway, look .... if you're just going to call me ignorant, and mock my country, I think I can see where this might go....
Kalvin says: so now you say we should have left the sweet Saddam and his mass genocide buddies to reform, build nukes, and nuke Israel.
Nancy says: I don't need you to put words in my mouth, but if the US was so concerned about human rights, there were way worse offenders than Saddam Hussein... and they continue to this day
Kalvin says: you do realize that the Israelis bombed the Osiric Nuke Reactor in Iraq in 1983?
Nancy says: and Israel is in defiance of UN resolutions about no nukes in the middle east
Kalvin says: so should the US take on every one of them?
Nancy says: no one gives THEM a hard time
Kalvin says: Israel has no proven nukes.
Kalvin says: prove it
Nancy says: even when THEY slaughter palestinian children
Nancy says: ok... Kalvin... I can see that things are quite black and white for you... lol
Nancy says: I never asked the US to do anything
Kalvin says: well you are going to continue to think what you want to believe. nothing i say will change your mind.
Nancy says: ditto
Kalvin says: i used to be a liberal. and then i realized that liberalism was nothing but lies.
Nancy says: fox/cnn fair and balanced.... HA
Kalvin says: cnn isn't fair
Kalvin says: fox actually has both sides of the argument
Nancy says: you probably think they're liberal
Nancy says: OMG
Kalvin says: baby
Nancy says: OMG
Nancy says: HAHAHAHAHAHHAA
Nancy says: ok
Nancy says: I gotta go
Nancy says: LOL
Kalvin says: wow you are very emotional
Kalvin says: i'm trying to have a conversation with me and you are very insulting and closed minded.
Kalvin says: i actaully llisten and read and pay attention.
Nancy says: the fact that you think fox is fair and balanced makes me think that you cannot possibly POSSIBLY pay attention to other news sources.... it's the BIGGEST propaganda machine on the PLANET
Kalvin says: and yoiu would know how? because you watch Fox News?
Nancy says: and to say that I'm insulting is a joke right
Kalvin says: no. all you do is listen to p ropaganda about conservatives.
Nancy says: gee you know me really well, for someone I've never met
Kalvin says: when i lived in Canada
Kalvin says: i watched CTV, BBC, CBC and MSNBC
Nancy says: I actually have watched enough of bill o'reilley to know he's psycho
Kalvin says: i never had the priveledge of watcxhing Fox because your country doesn't want people to watch Fox
Maybe it's love, we both agree, Bill O'Reilly sucks! - (back up to QuickLinks)
Kalvin says: bill oreilly sucks
Canadian censorship, or a Fox News Zombie? - (back up to QuickLinks)
or - listen to the pompous coward for a real opinion
Nancy says: funny... i get fox
Nancy says: sadly
Kalvin says: you want real opinion, listen to Rush Limbaugh
Nancy says: OMG!the drug addict!
Nancy says: LOL
Nancy says: who bitches about addicts
Nancy says: and then is caught popping pills... .but in his case, it's ok
Kalvin says: wow you really are brainwashed
Nancy says: OMG
Kalvin says: i'm sorry for you
Nancy says: yeah, "I" am
Nancy says: thanks for the insult
Nancy says: ditto
Kalvin says: jesus baby
Nancy says: take care
Kalvin says: you have a seriosly closed mind
Nancy says: I've listened to Rush Limbaugh... he's a windbag
Kalvin says: and you are very hostile
Kalvin says: really?
Nancy says: ok... I've had it with the insults Kalvin
Kalvin says: what insults? because i disagree with you?
Nancy says: I don't need to be insulted by someone who has likely never left the states as an adult
Kalvin says: omfg
Nancy says: closed minded isn't a compliment in this country anyway
At this point Nancy blocked incoming messages from Kalvin because it was pretty clear that this was going nowhere fast.
Stay tuned for part 2, it gets better, and a lot more bloody.
In the meantime, we ask you the readers to use the polls on the side, and comment on what you feel Nancy should do. Try to make ammends? what??
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